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Can Your Life as a Lawyer Be Better? | Interview with Jess Birken
Can Your Life as a Lawyer Be Better? | Interview with Jess Birken
Running a law firm can be rewarding, but it can also leave you asking, “Can my life be better?”
In this candid conversation, Terrell A. Turner, CPA, sits down with attorney and practice innovator Jess Birken to unpack what it really takes to build a law practice that supports both your career and your life. From navigating burnout and secondary trauma to creating systems, hiring the right team, and automating the work lawyers shouldn’t be doing, Jess shares powerful lessons from her own journey through private practice, nonprofit leadership, and law firm ownership.
In this interview, you’ll learn:
- How Jess pivoted from hating trial work to running her own thriving practice
- Why many lawyers stay stuck in outdated habits (and how to break free)
- The hidden costs of doing everything yourself and how to delegate effectively
- Practical tips for automating tasks so you can focus on client value
- Two game-changing pieces of advice for lawyers ready to grow on their own terms
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Timestamps
00:00 Welcome + The Question Every Lawyer Asks
02:30 Jess Birken’s Journey from Trial Law to Nonprofit to Private Practice
08:45 The Reality of Burnout, Trauma, and Lawyer Well-Being
15:20 Building a Practice that Fits Your Life
23:10 Why Lawyers Must Stop Doing Everything Themselves
29:45 Automating & Delegating: Operating at the Top of Your License
38:10 Hiring Your First Team Member (and why it’s scary but necessary)
47:00 Jess’s Top 2 Pieces of Advice for Law Firm Owners
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🌐 Connect with Jess Birken:
Hack Your Practice Pen Pal List: https://www.hackyourpractice.lawyer/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/birkenlaw
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOiW22abwG8RAGRS24lOpAA
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